The very first gun I ever bought was a Taurus Model 66, 357 mag. If your gun is likely to be used primarily for recreational shooting, hunting medium game within 100 yards, or defensive use, the .357 is superior. I suppose articles like this are of great importance for the simple minded who are clueless theres a huge difference between rifle and pistol ammunition and have never taken the time to read the specific ballistic data printed right on new ammunition boxes containing 30-30 or 357 cartridges, or notice that 30-30 brass is a lot BIGGER than 357 mag brass, or are oblivious to the abundance of ballistic info 101 that can be accessed online in seconds. Purchased this gun in 1985 and have never had a single problem with it. The comparisons have all included .357 magnum pistol velocities though. and have never had a problem with any of them. Personally, I feel they are more than a bit dangerous for beginners putting their fingers to far forward with the bottom round firing.. apologize for the length. i love my Trooper MK3..love my ugly ole glock 31/.357sig too.. According to the S&W web site, "Today's K-Frame is available in .22 LR, .357 Magnum and .38 S&W Special." Steel is a little heavier, and better controls .357 Magnums recoil. I love them. I still enjoy my Ruger GP100 after a decade of use, and shooting my newest addition, the Colt Cobra (even though it isn't a magnum). They were offered a revolver and a rifle with matching serial numbers that also matched their badge number. The 160-grain Leverevolution will deliver the goods at ranges out to 300 yards, although itll cost you a buck a shot. SKU: 150339. While theres still some debate over the cartridges ability to create hydrostatic shock, if youre looking for a highly effective, commonly available handgun caliber for self-protection, .357 is a perfectly defensible choice. Not good. The bullets used in 38 SP and 357 Mag are externally the same dimensions. Those Remington 125gr. Hand-Picked Daily GUN DEALS, and Exclusive Coupons Codes >>>. What about Kimber K6S? Then you are obligated to consider all the magnum revolvers in and out of production. Great revolvers but most people dont know anything about them. Thanks for the informative charts on the S&W models and Ill have to check out their 8 round revolver that I didnt know existed! .357 Magnum could work too for hunting, especially in a rifle vs. a revolver, but going with .30-30 would give you a bit more edge . And if you do that, you should consider all the giants upon whose shoulders today's manufacturers stand. They are amazing guns. We'll send you the latest guides and training tips geared If you shot revolvers, you have a favorite so everyone is right! If you can find a Security Six in good condition, Buy it. The .25-06 costs less, too. I have a Marlin 336BL in the corner thats my go to rifle. sticking with the old .38/.357 combo. cases were difficult to load with light loads in the early days due to *excessive* volume. The latter is an ideal range gun, but it can't compete accuracy-wise with the S&W 686 (which is far more accurate and which isn't even on the list), and when it left the range, it wasn't very useful except as a drawer gun and a paperweight. I was there in 1966-67 II Corps. I have a Security Six that I like and a K6s 3" DASA that I love. So, if youre looking for a .357 magnum, check out this revolver. . Before you quit shooting for the day, shoot at least two cylinders of your defensive ammo. Their prices are still reasonable, but they are starting to climb, as the name start to get respected again. What about the Chiapas Rhino? Well I did some research and got the ballistics for commercial .357 Magnum ammunition fired from a rifle. As of writing this article, the lowest per-round cost for the 9mm was $0.14, while the lowest per-round for the .357 Magnum was $0.27. In this case, the .357 Magnum wins, because full power ammo pushes a 125-grain bullet 100 f.p.s. I manufactured ammo for over a decade commercially. And I had to have a S&W, but still looking for a "Registered Magnum" model. The 158-grain semi-jacketed soft point bullet permits the quicker transfer of energy, which enables the bullet to do more damage. 158-grain lead SWC handloads, filled with 5.7 grains of Unique. Without a doubt, the 357 Magnum kicks 9mm butt when it comes to effective range, energy on target, and wind drift. But it was easily done by a gunsmith (unlike S&W and Ruger revolvers, it is not easily screwed off to replace and disassembling/reassembling revolvers in general is not for the faint of.heart) cheaply. we all could learn something. Rereleased in 2020, the Colt Python made its return as a 6-shot DA/SA revolver with a high-polish stainless steel finish. The grips, barrel length, weight, and good DA/SA trigger make this revolver very balanced and pleasant to shoot without being unwieldy. Subscribe to Pew Pew Tactical's sales and deals email. 2. I own the .357 with a 4.2" barrel and its very nice. The .357 Magnum cartridge is a revolver round with a .357-inch bullet diameter. Even the little .243 Winchester throwing a 100-grain bullet 3,100 fps cranks out more muzzle energy2,100 ft-lbsthan the .30-30. Unique is a fast-burning powder; this light load was nearly consumed in the 4 revolver barrel so there was only a modest gain from the carbine. A 100-grain, 25 caliber (25-06), Nosler Partition bullet, fired from a fully powered 30-06 cartridge, will literally blow away the standard 30-06 165-grain round. For small frame revolvers, I dont recommend always shooting heavy-loaded, Its possible to wear out or break important parts of the revolver under these loads. If you are referring to police work they all are obsolete. Using the same case head diameter of the .223 Remington at a length of 1.71-inch, the 350 Legend uses a .357-inch diameter bullet, for a combination that is very easy on the shoulder while being effective downrange. 8. They have a snub nosed (2in) and full sized (6in) revolvers. Next, the .45 Colt barely edging out the .44 Mag for second place and the .44-40 a distant 5th behind . We hate SPAM and promise to keep your email address safe. Learn the 3 most popular shooting stances & more. This post was originally published in 2011. Very nice overview of the .357 magnum. The 125-grain loads have not quite as much muzzle energy as NATOs standard infantry rifle round, the 5.56x45mm. It is black and I put a optic on it but I really want the nebula color because it's different. . They are very sturdy guns, on the heavy side, which I like (I'd say "have a nice weight to them,") good (albeit very basic, and fixed) sights.I find myself just as if not more accurate with my aptly-named Windicator than any gun of it's size, and more than any standard polymer 9mm/.40cal. Pistol caliber carbines are practical, economical to feed and just plain fun to shoot. I certainly don't remember ever feeling the recoil. Do , vin si Xtraman l sn phm ph hp dnh cho cnh n ng mun gia tng kh nng sinh l nam, ngn nga nguy c yu sinh l, xut tinh sm, lit dng,. When and if I get some of these to test Ill post the results, but for big game Id still rather have a .30-30. Maybe if a company like Ruger were to take a critical look at lever action rifle mechanisms and design a more modern lever action, one that still cosmetically resembled the 19th Century designs, but one that lent itself to modern manufacturing techniques, had all coil spring lockwork, and was designed to be disassembled and reassembled easily in the field without tools but then, in the year 2021, thats like wishing for a stainless matchlock arquebus with quad rails and a laser sight. The .30-30 was once the standard North American big-game hunting cartridge. One also must consider whether today's .357 Magnum revolvers are as good as or worse than the giants upon whose shoulders they stand. The price was very affordable too. 6.5" barrel, stainless steel, ported to help manage recoil. The best current production available, especially the 5 inch 686 performance 7 shot revolver. Jack. Ruger SP101, 3-inch barrel. It features a fixed rear sight, brass bead front sight, and Hogue Overmolded rubber grips, While heavier than the standard Colt Cobra, the extra weight. I shoot .38 special in mine most of the time just to minimize stress on my hand and wrist, but it's still fun to load up some .357 and shred targets with it. Its an 8 AR-type pistol and LOTS of fun until you have to clean it. I also have a PC 642 for EDC, but would recommend the LCR with fiber or tritium from sight as a better alternative, due to improved second shot recovery. It has enough heft to tame most of the recoil, though I swapped out the wood grip. Minimum wear. My mild 158-grain lead SWC handloads produced 1176 fps and 485 lb-ft from the carbine, which was better than Id expected since they only burn a small charge of Unique, a fast-burning pistol powder. Now then, you throw the same loadings into a 16 AR9 theres a 140fps margin in favor of the Blue Dot! Check Sturm, Ruger & Co.'s website for GP100 serial number dates that indicate S/N 170-00001 (1st Issue) was first "shipped" in 1986. you a link to reset your password. I cant remember the details off the top of my head; I packed all that stuff up for a move and havent unpacked it since. Its not just the .357 that varies point of impact by ammo. .300 PRC vs. .300 Win. Detailed specs plus plain language observations show Mr Dumm takes his work seriously. Id like to see reviews on the colt lightening and the Taurus thunderbolt .357 mag pump action rifles. Our .357 Magnum pistol: a 1980s Smith & Wesson Model 686 with a 4 barrel. This is using the gun in single action. For searching, the projectiles of .300 Win Mag Continue reading 357 Mag Vs 45 Long Colt The S&W and Ruger names speak for themselves. Hey Marty, there's almost no kydex options so you'll probably have to go with leather. .357 Mag ammo from brands like Hornady, Federal, and CCI. The S&B 158-grain JSPs gave carbine numbers of 1451 fps and 739 lb-ft, but the chrono battery died before we could measure them from the revolver. for a front blade sight and fixed rear sight. To simulate the carry .357 Magnum ammo, use .38 Special +P or low velocity .357 Magnum ammo. The DA trigger pull was silky smooth. It weighs six pounds and holds 5+1 rounds. It was the first time I ever shot a gun. 38 S&W SPECIAL +P . Our .357 Magnum pistol: a 1980s Smith & Wesson Model 686 with a 4 barrel. According to Frank Barnes' "Cartridges of the World," the .357 case was made 1/8 inch longer in order to keep it from being chambered in .38 Special cylinders that were not strong enough to handle the much higher case pressure of the .357. They show that the .357 Mag is far and away the most popular with close to the total votes. i wondered why he did put the 327 performance center on here 627 comes in performance center also. 357 Magnum . i like my Tarus 357 mag with a 4inch barrel .it might be some cheaper but it handles good and its accurate. I was surprised by the level of detail and the amount of information that was available. Mag. It does not conceal particularly well but is not intended as such. I dont really need more for Whitetails and varmints out to 100 yards. -The 45 Colt is a slower moving round than the .357 Magnum, which makes it more effective at close range. I have hand loaded just about everything in .38 and The Python also has a ventilated top rib and a full underlug to protect the ejection rod. S&W Model 66 I keep those at home. I have a couple blackhawks and they are fine guns that will last a lifetime super strong. I can smack pop cans at 100 yards all day long. N-Frame. It became quite widely utilized in .30-06 is an fantastic cartridge, but it's hard to argue with the statistics. Who writes these articles. Ive considered a 923 (Largo) PCC build for a while now. For small frame revolvers, I dont recommend always shooting heavy-loaded .357 Magnum ammo. The 2.25-inch and 3-inch models offer synthetic black grips, front ramp sight, and fixed rear sight. View at Guns.com. The round is based on the earlier Smith & Wesson .38 Special cartridge and was first designed with a 158-grain semi-jacketed soft point (flat) bullet. Then why is the Colt Python on this list. Compare all 44 Magnum ammunition manufacturers on one easy to read chart. Generally I never shoot the gun in DA, as a matter personal preference and much better accuracy. My current marlin (1998) with Ballard rifling is more accurate than my previous Marlins with microgroove rifling with any bullet type. Back in the day, it was, by far, the absolute best out-of-the-box revolver on the marketPERIOD!! I was lucky enough to grow up with .357s available to shoot and since then it has always been my go to cartridge. The only problem with it was the grip was too small. Small frame revolvers usually weigh between 12 ounces and 2 pounds when empty. I bought my heavy vented rib model with 3 barrels (2.5", 4" and 8") back in early '70s (1974 I think). The .308 has a slight accuracy advantage, while the .30-06 can be modified to rival the power of some magnum loads. Toll-Free: . He brings almost three decades of experience in law enforcement and shooting instruction to the table and that experience shines through in everything he does. Saw a similar comparison via YouTube vid back in 2014. :-). They are most accurate at less than 1,000 yards. Get Our Top Shooting Drills and Zeroing Targets ($47 value - but FREE for a limited time). The extra length prevents the revolvers cylinder from closing and locking into place. Developed for use by French police and Special Weapons and Tactics units and fielded by the French GIGN, the accuracy and durability of this revolver are legendary. It also shoots 38 and 9mm with another cylinder. .357 is a caliberof cartridge It is not in S&W or Ruger league or prestige but for basic day to day practicality on the street or bedside I'd put it up against anything, really. Re: 357 vs 44 mag vs 44-40 popularity in lever guns. With light loads, it boosted a truly anemic .38 Special cowboy load up to +P velocities, and it gave the .38 Special +P equivalent load a 20 percent velocity increase. Better than buying a gun just for there name. Your 92 model. All in all, apart from the inherently higher quality that you get with S&W and Ruger, the Windy is pretty much equal to any gun on this list when it comes down to all practical purposes and I'm quite fond of it. You pretty much have to hunt in a manner that gives you a very accurate shot. If I had younger eyes, I could push the distance further. This gives me point of aim accuracy from 50-100 yards. The problem with 9mm is youre not gonna get any farther than Blue Dot really; Youre maxed out for burn slowness. Which gives the bigger bullet of the two bragging rights for killing ability. There have been discussions in the past about the comparison between the .357 Magnum and the .30 Carbine cartridges. Sorry, Ted, but you might "bez" mistaken. Thanks for the rec, Colin! The overall length of the 30-30 ammo is 2.55," and the case capacity is 45 grains. Well, yes and no. A full power 158gr. You should check it out. Use some practice time to shoot mid-range .357 Magnum ammo and finish with a few hot defensive rounds. I have the Ruger New model Blackhawk convertible in a 357 magnum, 6.50 in barrel. It's easy to build muscle memory of draw, clear, finger on trigger, pull hammer and then trigger, repeat. The .257 Weatherby runs between $3.10 and $6.15 per round while the .25-06 can be had for between $1.42 and $3.70 per cartridge. And the 2&1/2 barrel version is considered by myself and many knowledgeable handguners to be the best all round snub nose .357 ever. It is a stainless steel N large-frame revolver with a 4-inch custom underlug barrel. I like the mag capacity of the .357 versus the .30-30. The best .357 yet and you didn't even find anywhere on your list to put it: Dan Wesson! People may well see I have a gun. Of course this is just my opinion. Did anyone mention the ugly one"Chiappa Rhino? Ruger also offers a 4.2-inch model that sports a fiber optic front sight and adjustable rear sight. The 270 Winchester fires a .277" diameter bullet while its larger brother fires a .308" diameter bullet. It should read 977. Barrel lengths differ based on which model but most float between 2 and 4 inches. True dat, but that kind of defeats the purpose of the matching caliber pistol/rifle combo. The N frame is the largest frame used for the S&W .357 Magnum revolvers. 357 Automag LP 357 Herrett LR 357 Magnum SPM 357 Maximum SPM 357 Sig SP 358 Norma Magnum LRM 358 Winchester LR 35-8mm Remington Magnum LRM 375 Dakota LRM 375 H&H Flanged Case volume was NOT a factor in the development of the 357 mag, at all. 25 after seeing how much the value has gone up and it's not original. .50. Use some practice time to shoot mid-range .357 Magnum ammo and finish with a few hot defensive rounds. The problem with reviews of the BEST .357 Magnum revolvers is that the reviewers tend to be in the pockets of the advertisers. I do not have a 5 shot 7 shot or 8 shot yet in 357..The model 60 is on my to get list, the pro series. Thanks,Tad. When we sent the gun to S&W for examination, detonation was their determination, likely due to a light handload. Rossi 92 .357 lever , and a cz pcr 9mm Henry .22 lever, Remington speedmaster 552 .22 lr . For a small person, it fits me like a glove and is a beast that with the right ammo can do any kind of shooting you want to do. Someone so knowledgeable in the area of ballistics should be smart enough to identify it as being beneath their level of expertise and just walk on by. so if the 357 mag holds the one shot stop record why would need to send more rounds that might miss and hit the wrong . The Model 627 also brings a large trigger and hammer and adjustable rear sight with a gold bead front sight. I am experienced shooter. While there are plenty of .357 models and companies that produce them, a few gun makers immediately stand out. Check out the new online S&W catalog. If you plan to use your gun on bigger game or at ranges past 100 or 150 yards, the .30-30 is your clear choice. It's soft shooting even with 357 magnum rounds. I like it better than my smS&W. Please enter a valid email address . All the Revolvers you listed are excellent but you left out one of the best 357 Mag. The model 627 Tracker has been one of the nicest shooting revolvers I've fired. That's with 357 mag ammo. The .357 Magnum basically doubles its kinetic energy when its fired from a carbine, and it almost earns a promotion to the Big Leagues of rifle ballistics. If youre looking for a high-quality concealed-carry revolverthis is it. Work for 2-3 hours in y0ur spare time and OO get paid 1200 0n y0ur bank acc0unt every week, Get more inf0rmation 0n f0ll0wing site .. He is also an avid competitor, reloader, and all-around firearms aficionado who can help you learn more about almost every aspect of shooting and caring for firearms. However, the highest-cost for the 9mm Luger was $1.95, while the highest per-round price for .357 Magnum was $1.90. Bought a security 6 (4" barrell) about a year ago. weight of the Python ideal for stabilizing the recoil of the .357 Magnum. Handgun hunters use the cartridge to take game up to the size of small deer. Retained weight: 181.7 gr Some private citizens still use K Frames for self-defense, target shooting, and hunting, but theyre pretty obsolete. I own one and compared it to the Ruger sp101 before buying the Kimber K6s. I personally have a 6" blued Python, circa 1978, that is new-in-box, never fired, and have no intention of firing it. You can also find some L Frame revolvers that are somewhere between the K and the N in frame size. This load is equivalent to a .38 Special +P. I was in my twenties and knew nothing. This revolver is built on a large frame similar to the Smith and Wesson model 29. Over the years I have owned most of the 357 Mag Revolvers you listed and since I reload I have put a lot of lead through them. So many choices! Using .38 Special ammunition, it handles very nicely. Ive owned a Ruger GP-100 since the late 80s-first handgun I ever purchased and 100% agree with your points on the gun and versatile ammo options in general. I own a SW 686 .357 revolver, and I love it. Kinber revolvers from now on for me. Peter, How do I get a catalog with the 357 handguns. no just the 627 almost the same gun so he used that one, and i agree with that choice. Granted the 686 is a fine weapon and probably should've beat out the Ruger Redhawk at #6 but that is the choice of the author. pretty cool. I target shoot with my 4" Very few I dont care for. I am a highly prejudicated in favor of larger caliber revolvers (smallest being a S&W .38 w/ 4.5" barrel) for what i call the three H's- Hunt, Hit, and Hurt- bringing down food, accuracy/proficiencey with the firearm (obviously needed for H1and H2) and puttin the hurt on evildoers up to no good (Home invasion, self and others personal safety etc) I've never had one jam, stovepipe, fail to feed etc My 357 of choice is a Ruger Blkhwk w/ 6.5 bbl I also own two 41 mags, a Ruger and a S&W ,both have 8 3/8" bbls- slight edge to the Smith for quicker reloading- 2 Colt 45 long 6" and 1 has a 4.5 AND just for shits n giggles 2 Heritage Ruffies a 6.5 and a 9 inch both with 22lr and 22 mag cylinders Not to worried bout the ol' CCL aspect I enjoy the article and the other replies to each to their own. It may be pretty weak sauce compared to more modern, high-velocity rounds, but it still gets the job done for most game at reasonable ranges. However, though I saw many an ARVN soldier carrying the little M1carbine I never laid a glove on one until about two years ago when I got one on special from Fulton Armory. Ruger also manufactures .357 Magnum revolvers, including the Blackhawk and the Vaquero. And you were born knowing everything about all the guns, I take it? Now, the most frustrating gun I own is the Diamondback DBX 57 to field strip. 357 Magnum is a bit to handle but I can shoot 38 Special thru it all day long. This standard (.30-06) length magnum cartridge drives a 250 grain bullet at a muzzle . Additionally, 125 grain 38 special +P (~1250 fps) hits point of aim at 25 yards with this zero. . I certainly didnt go wrong with this group of firearms. I have a Ruger No.1A in .357 magnum. Ruger also offers a 4.2-inch model that sports a fiber optic front sight and adjustable rear sight. In my opinion the .30 carbine is hotter than the .357 with the lighter-faster bullet. The gun features a fully adjustable rear sight, match trigger, and is completely hand-fitted to exacting tolerances. Model 627 Pro in .357 Magnum. jhp's. 357 Mag Vs 30-06 .30-06 is a very antique round. The .308 has less of a recoil, but the .30-06 has more stopping power. I've also owned a .30 Cal Carbine and I love it. Yes sir totally agree. You can also shoot for extended time periods without feeling recoil discomfort. You can carry them concealed easily with a 4-inch barrel if you wear loose clothes, and they also conceal well in a fanny pack. Only one is .357 Magnum. I usually use the 4" or 6". It's that simple. And thats with standard ammo. Then, as now, everyone wanted more powerful ammo. Next to no muzzle flip at all. And when this article was written S&W were producing their new K frames that have been reinforced through the forcing cone area. Hi, just got the 357 Magnum bug. The action is super smooth. I reload .38 Special for target shooting and the heavy frame is just right for the recoil of the .357 cartridge. Our .30-30: an early-1990s Winchester Model 1894 'Trapper' with a 16.5 barrel. Allmost every round through them have been full house 357 Mag. There have been discussions in the past about the comparison between the .357 Magnum and the .30 Carbine cartridges. We'll only use the information provided according to our privacy policy. Anything further is just gravy. You wont find one off the shelf, but I could take a standard 9mm barrel and find a good lathe operator to deepen the chamber. Now thats a good reply right there.hehe.. Hmmm. I think the GP 100 is a better all-around gun. Hey AJ, you can find the author and bio linked at the bottom of every article. While some folks claim the .44 Magnum is the minimum for charging bears, many others have opted for a Glock 20 in 10mm Auto and, interestingly enough, passed right by the .357 S&W Magnum. And Ive had a levergun in .357 mag on my wish list ever since its jumped to the top now that Ive actually got a revolver to pair with one. Answer (1 of 13): The 30-30 is more powerful and has a longer effective range, particularly with pointy polymer tipped bullets it can be a reliable 225-250 yard deer rifle. I have two of your choices: S&W model 60 with 2.25 Not much else to say. This isn't true, and you should know better by now. The Trooper was a steal as someone didn't know what they had. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. My carry gun is SP101. It features a 6 shot capacity and weighs just about 40 . As with the small frame revolvers, I prefer DA/SA trigger action and stainless steel. To see what we recommend feeding your revolver, check out the Best .357 Magnum Ammo. I loaded it myself using 180 grain bullets and Hodgkins h110 powder. I too have a GP 100 and a S&W 686 Plus. Chiappa the new 357mag revolver with the 3' is easier to carry than the 4 inch but gives you better control than the 2 inch, so dont knock it till you try it. You might want to check it out for future reviews and lists. any review giving is a matter of opinion of the person giving it. Copyright 2023 Pew Pew Media, Inc. All rights reserved. In terms of personal defense firearms: Smith & Wessons lighter K frame Model 19 was released in 1957 developed to meet the special needs of law enforcement. Have a S&W Model 686 Six shot .357 magnum with a 4" barrel. TTAG must be hard up for subject matter. 66ss , 2 1/2 brl. That was way back in '89. We quickly go over what to look for in a wheelgun and our Best .357 Magnum Revolvers across different frame sizes & budgets. Also, the Python is just too iconic to not mention. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. You cant spray and pray like you might with a semi-auto, but these little guns are very quick. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. The older gun I have probably killed 30 deer the slightly newer one probably 15 or 20. Although extremely expensive, the MR73 is regarded by many as the finest .357 magnum revolver ever made. Think big Magnaports and alot of fun lol. This company is well known for .22 caliber pistols and rifles that shoot centerfire and rimfire ammo. So for $3900 and change I could buy the worlds finest brick? .357 S&W Magnum. I would wholeheartedly agree that perhaps another article addressing specifically SA revolvers might help. However, I suspect the window has closed on that idea. 11.5mm. I shoot .38 +P ammo for practice. Now what should we compare it to. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .327 Federal Magnum vs .357 Magnum ammo rounds. In other words, sure - a Bugatti is one of the pinnacles of cars. This gun opts for a front blade sight and fixed rear sight. You missed the Ruger LCRx, with 3" barrel is 1/4# lighter than the K6. In modern military terms it would be considered an intermediate-caliber round, packing about the same punch as the 7.6239. Specifically, the 7mm Rem Mag has about 2-4% more muzzle energy than the .30-06 with these three particular loads. I also owned a 3" SP101. 30-30 Winchester; 30-06 Springfield; 308 Winchester; 50 Beowulf; 5.45x39; 7mm Remington Magnum; 7mm-08 Remington; 7.62x39; 7.62x54R; . I have never heard anyone in my life refer to a gp100 as anything more than sufficient. They could carry one caliber for two weapons. I believe the Ruger GP 100 would be a little too heavy for regular carry. have the s&w 627 with the 2.635 inch looking at getting the 327 trr8 or the r8 in the 5inch i think it is mot sure yet and u should change the taurus to the 608 from the 66ss same size just 8 shots. no just the 627 almost the same gun so he used that one, and i agree with that choice. Wish I still had mine. The Ruger is HD, the Kimber camping and trail. There 25m range. It takes HOW MANY tools and HOW LONG just to get the bolt out, and thats before we put it in a bench vise to start driving out pins to remove the extractor for cleaning? Maybe Im just spoiled by more modern designs. Go to revolvers then type .357 magnum. Answer (1 of 14): There are several chamberings in "357". I also own a Ruger LC9 9mm, and its nice as well. As the stats between the 30 carbine and 357 mag are quite similar. So a bullet as small as .3540" would still be in spec. I quit reading when I saw two Taurus revolvers on the list, and the 686 wasn't. The .357 Magnum Winchester PDX1 Defender JHP with 125-grain bullets costs $1.25 per round, while the same product ( 125 grain JHP) for .357 SIG cost $1.10 per round. All 3 were extremely accurate and reliable. I have 3 Dan Wessons in.22, .357, and .44 Magnum. The 10mm Auto will obviously fire larger, heavier bullets ranging from 135gr to 220gr, with . While the 16 Trapper is very handy, consider an 18 barrel which will give you an extra round of magazine capacity and a small ballistic increase. That turns into a 9-25% advantage in favor of 7mm Rem Mag at 500 yards. I would like to get ahold of a Smith & weightWesson 357 Magnum with 8 and 3/8 inch barrel. They can move left or right automatically and their position is unpredictable. We already have an account registered for email address he is just trying to say not everybody is as knowledgable as you. It's a shame and you're not doing anyone a service. Best .357 ever!!! 06-30-2009 @ 12:56 AM Location Houston Texas Posts 189 Local Date 01-15-2023 Local Time 05:16 AM.30 Carbine vs .357 Magnum There have been discussions in the past about the comparison between the .357 Magnum and the .30 Carbine cartridges. Each of the six rounds you place in a .357 Magnum revolver delivers some of the best performance from a handgun. It's accurate and its heavy barrel retards the recoil, which can be sharp at times. With higher-performance loads, the .357 carbine almost delivers real rifle ballistics. I enjoyed reading y'all's comment. Recoil is extremely mild even with the stoutest loads, so that the XS ghost ring sights never even leave the target; you just keep working the lever and blazing away until you run out of ammo (not likely) or until your tin can bounces away out of sight. The 27-2 is very nice. For target practice, I still recommend using .38 Special ammo to save money. Stay safe and be good with your aim.. 35 Remy is 5 calibers larger in mass. S&W Model 19 w/ 4" barrel, Pachmayr grips, and a sweet trigger job. 60. . I just can't say enough good about the Kimber, sweet! I have zero complaints about the Windicator. Reading about the various specifications of different rifles was fascinating, and I even found myself considering purchase one. me brudder gots a tc contender chambered for that. http://ballistics101.com/30-30_winchester.php, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/.30-30_Winchester, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/.357_Magnum. It is a good idea to keep the ball rolling in the middle of the racetrack, which allows you to easily move to the left or the right to evade the obstacles. But not quite.. But not a lot of them in brush killing much. Yes, 2 outa the 3 are "Safe Queens". I believe that the 2.25 barrel. Series. I think it was for their 50 year of operation. One caveat: my .357 carbine is nicely accurate, but the point of impact varies greatly depending on the ammunition being fired. Kinda want to try out some of the underwood extreme defender loadings from rifle length but going to be a bit until the next gun for the family. Perfect for concealed carry. With heavy loads the low center of fire keeps you on target if you want a revolver with ease try one, Well you left out one of the sweetest 357mags, the new rino 3' 357mags. The Kimber feels beefier, it is finished better than any gun for the money. As an example, I do happen to like the earlier 6 shot 686s, but dont care much for the heavier 7 shooters. But it's in my safe and I carry a semi auto due to available firepower with a .357 Sig - in a 226 - can't beat the ballistics Really great article. What about the S&W 686? Nothing else came close. . But they are also famous for shotguns and the .357 Magnum DA/SA, DA only, and SA Revolvers. If I can't shoot itIt's a gun that needs to be shot. Tried a few different grips but not a lot of selection for that model, but it deserves to be on there being the first revolver with the transfer bar. The .357 Magnum basically doubles its kinetic energy when its fired from a carbine, and it almost earns a promotion to the Big Leagues of rifle ballistics. You'll now receive newsletters of our best articles on techniques, The S&W 627 Prois an 8-shot .357 Magnum DA/SA. The Security Six has the best reviews of all 357 Mag. The blow back system is under a LOT of pressure. Good to know. Finally, theres the J Frameprobably one of the most popular styles of revolvers. And a Ruger BH ss 6 1/2 brl. 1. Size Difference Between 30.06 vs 308. .357 mag. While these guns are powerful, their large size and heavy weight make them harder to conceal. 357 Magnum 357 SIG 38 Special 38 Super 40 S&W 10mm Auto: 41 Magnum 44 Magnum 44 . I read this article back in 2011 as a mostly uninformed firearms novice and new owner of a Marlin .30-30, and learned quite a bit from it. There are a ton of revolver models floating around the market, and most are solid. Hahahha, is that your "professional" opinion? Have one in pristine condition and shoots like a dream. Of which Id say the Savage 99 is by far my top pick for accuracy in a lever gun. It has the Calif highway patrol logo on it. I have no complaints against the Taurus revolvers except for the polymer 357, for obvious reasons--those are two words that simply don't belong together. I really enjoy my Model 27-1 Smith and Wesson with a 6-1/2 Barrel. How much would a .S&W 357 mag, 6 shots with 8-1/4 barrel cost? Both triggers are comparable. What the hell is that!!Usually so,meone else answer s for me. The .38 Special case has plenty of volume. For general target practice, shoot .38 Special ammo. That suggests you will get different terminal performance firing the same cartridge out of your revolver and your rifle. The .357 Magnum revolver cartridge has also gained considerable popularity as a combination rifle/pistol cartridge and lever action rifles for the .357 Magnum sell pretty well. Literally. I still regularly take it to the range and it is very accurate and can handle a heavy load with no problem. View. Uh, couple more you left out, Charter Arms, Chiappa, Wesson Arms, etc. I dont prefer it for carry, for that I chose my sig p380 hd. Fred is an old hand when it comes to firearms. Thats where other rounds shine. .50 AE. I used the joules measurement in error. But then the caliber opportunities are more varied by far! Buy Yoga Mat Online. The GP-100, Redhawk, and SP-101 would later follow. It's also worth noting that recoil is affected by the type of firearm in use. Since more of the bullets mass is outside the cartridge, there is more room for powder in the cartridge. My opinion. Have had a stainless 4" barrel Ruger GP 100 down here in Australia (50 yard range use, no Concealed Carry Permit possible here), for about five years, and can attest to the solid build and reliability of the gun. Looking closely I believe the problem was the previous owner had flipped the wheel into the gun with a flick of the hand quite a few times causing the damage (NEVER do this with your revolver despite it being a rather satisfying feeling and it being ubiquitous in the movies.) While heavier than the standard Colt Cobra, the extra weight helps tame the recoil of the .357 Magnum cartridge and increases service life. That comparison isnt even good enough to be called lame. With 9mm, we are looking at 10 to 12 inches of drop out to 100 yards and the potential for lots of wind drift. Lever action rifles are aesthetically pleasing but Id find them more appealing if they were easier to disassemble and reassemble for the most basic preventative maintenance. . Gunbroker.com. In cooler carry my Windy in what you might call "semi-open" OWB carry, under a jacket or vest. I also have a 6" GP100 which is incredibly accurate on steel out to 200 yards. And that's with standard ammo. gear. If it crashes into the wall of the tunnel, the run is over. Simple. Just like the right to bear arms, this right does not give everyone the right to carry a gun at all times. And the .30-30 still dramatically outperforms these exotic .357s at longer ranges. Nowadays if you are just looking for a gun to go shooting with to have fun it would be way to expensive . For uses other than big-game hunting, .357 Magnum carbines have other benefits which have nothing to do with ballistics. Case volume was not an issue. The King Cobra is a medium-frame 6-shot revolver with a 3-inch barrel, sporting a brushed stainless steel finish. Currently they sell for 3-5k USD. I've tried the .44SW Mag. Might need to get rid of it because of hand issues. and 1153 lb-ft, for a 41 percent velocity gain and 98 percent boost in energy. The Kimber is also cold weather CC. But I will put them up against any of your listed for accuracy, reliability, looks, and just plain Ol' fashioned "Cool Factor". Well I did some research and got the ballistics for commercial .357 Magnum ammunition fired from a rifle. And both are used for medium to large game. As I said before I find it very, very accurate despite having fixed and rather primitive sights. I own the Ruger gp100 6inch..SW 586 4 inch..SW K-comp 19.. All in all, its an excellent concealed-carry revolver if you want a lot of firepower in a small package. (I also love my Henry .357 Carbine.). I was a combat soldier in RVN, I was 11E and in an Armored Cavalry outfit in I Corps. It has a 2.125-inch underlug barrel and exposed hammer with black synthetic grips that wear well. I already own some of the recommended revolvers and I am happy with them. My friend retired as a Lt. Rossi 92 .357 lever . I own a Ruger Blackhawk 61/2 stainless,, a S&w model 19-4,, and have sold off the two snubby .357s I dont really miss the EAA,, but wished I wouldnt have sold my Taurus 606 to my cousin. I haven't dealt with those yet though! All are fantastic revolvers that are fun to shoot and can handle anything you put through them. The reliability and durability of the SP101 in conjunction with its smaller size make this a great choice for backpackers, hikers, and other outdoors enthusiasts. If youll be doing your shooting at anything but short ranges, you should find a good load and stick with it. All in all, its an excellent concealed-carry revolver if you want a lot of firepower in a small package. I keep my .30-30 loaded with Federal 125gr. I have handled some Redhawks in the store: Damned heavy, but certain to survive the thumping they 'impart' to the target when you run out of ammo. My service arm was a Ruger Security 6. After about 8 theres nothing left to gain from any longer barrel in 9mm. In 1972, Ruger introduced the Ruger Security-Six, Service-Six, and Speed-Six Revolvers for law enforcement, civilian self-defense, and military markets. I was at my range one day with my teen sons, and another shooter pulled out his stainless steel revolver and both my sons wanted to shoot it, The nice guy let them try it, and they said I had to buy one. Having shot some stuff with some stuff my observations have been a .4d4 mag and 3030 are pretty close in killing. Out of a 6-inch barrel, the bullet flies at a velocity of 1,600 feet per second, producing a muzzle energy of around 909 foot-pounds of force. Mine is zeroed at 75 yards with Winchester Silvertips (~1700 fps). The result is substantially more powerful than a .30 Carbine, but even on paper it takes the most exotic .357 loads to equal the most pedestrian .30-30 loadings. TF. Source. Hey Jeremy, thanks for the reca Rhino is on my list of revolvers to try! $1,004. This is a great gun. The S&W model 19 and SS version 66 was/is one of the best law enforcement sidearms of all time. #1. Sorry but the S&W 19/66 is the finest .357, period. I think the M2 carbine was a great "submachinegun" since it's cartridge almost duplicates .357 magnum velocities from a rifle and therefore gives it a longer effective range than 9 mm Parabellum, .45 ACP or 7.62x25 submachine guns. Yes, the 357 really comes alive out of a rifle. and (Speed Six in Stainless). It's definitely my "funnest" gun, and bought purely for the "cool" factor. Reliable. However, I did recently find the Taurus Tracker 692. If price is of no concern nor is nationality, how could the Rhino be left out? Certainly some classic model revolvers mentioned. I did take it in to get cleaned up , but it runs very well . You must not know about them yet. The SP-101 isa 5-shot DA/SA .357 Magnum available in stainless steel or blued finishes. While the .357 Mag. The only thing that I regret in hindsight is 35 years ago having a custom trigger and hammer job done on the Mod. Great series! The racetrack is made from interconnected slopes. It weighs six pounds and holds 5+1 rounds. The quicker the animals demise"_ I think my theroy applies to the 30 carbine verses 357 Mag also. First up, we have the Smith & Wesson Model 627 Pro, which is what comes to mind when I think of a revolver chambered in .357 Magnum. Definitely a 357 fan. & .357 . I too have been a big fan of Taurus. My last 3 handguns have all been revolvers. Its interesting that some folks who dispute the value of this article would waste their time reading it, let alone waste More of their time criticizing it. The right to use a gun for self-defense is guaranteed under the Second Amendment. I dont shoot it much, but for me its still a keeper. .45-70 turns me away at the cost. Its higher capacity and lower recoil are more suited to such applications where the extra power and penetration of the .30-30 would be wasted. What about the Rhino? I have the Taurus 357. (Never did get rid of that guy's flinch, but he retired as a major anyway.) Don't quit reading, just try shooting the latest Taurus out. Clean and mean. The newer Model 627 is a beautiful handgun, but I like my Model 28 best. There is no "proven stopping power" for a particular caliber gun. Click below for a FREE LESSON! The MR73 is the most exacting and high-end production revolver ever made. Simply put, the 270 Winchester is a necked-down version of the . The comparisons have all included .357 magnum pistol velocities though. It's my all time favorite gun. In slope io game, your ultimate objective is to run as far as possible. But in this case we are looking at two different . I thoroughly enjoy your articles. I have a mid eighties Dan Wesson 357 mag 6 inch barrel ventilated rib (model is 13 V). Too fast and it breaks up. Hollow point ammunition works only in a narrow velocity range. Amazingly smooth action. It is a stainless-steel handgun and is in the "S&W", L-Frame Youll laugh, but it my favorite rifle is my Rossi 1892 with a 16 barrel. Although this is the lightest revolver on the list, the high build quality and excellent shootability are apparent in the K6s. You want J frame size 6 shots get a Kimber K6S they are excellent out of the box, You didnt even mention the model 19? The 350 legend is actually a 9mm not the same as a 357. By Chris Dumm Elmer Keith, Phillip B. Sharpe, Colonel D. B. Wesson developed the .357 Magnum cartridge in 1934. 30-06 Springfield 30-30 Winchester.308 Winchester 338 Lapua Magnum 5.56x45mm NATO 5.7x28mm 6mm Creedmoor 6.5 Creedmoor 6.5 Grendel 7.62x51mm NATO 7.62x39 Rimfire Ammo 17 HMR 22 Long Rifle You probably also know it as the gun that won the West. Tested. The great stopping power myth is that there is a "best." 3. Numerous times people have offered to buy it. There are NO sharp edges anyhwere and it comes in 2, 3 & 4 inch barrels. I couldnt put the Rhino down fast enough. However, the .380 does a good job with shot placement. I've owned more than one; one that I got 2nd hand I had to replace the ejector rod, but this was cheap, and would not have given me any trouble in a defensive situation where I needed more than six shots and there are very few situations that I hope I might ever run into that require more than one (well, hopefully zero!) Taurus 66, 6" made the list. This further 357 and 44mag. Also, glad you at least mentioned Taurus even though they didn't make the list. I have an old model 19 and just recently started shooting again. You will be horrified. passed on a 60s 94 .30-30 for 150; felt it was too femwee a round at the time (i was stupid as a youngster as well). It's a wonderful revolver and quite reasonably priced, either new or used. Personally, I prefer the 1889 Marlin lever gun in .44-40. Phil carried a 30-06 during this period in his career, as a Brown Bear guide, and explained his choice of weapons, by reminding anyone that would listen, that bullet placement is 95% of killing and stopping power. Im still partial to a S&W 13-3 I have and it has a lot of miles on it. Man did you guys blow it! Fortunately, understanding the conversions between metric and imperial for handgun calibers is quite a bit easier because there are far fewer common pistol cartridges than there are rifle cartridges. Min expansion: 0.534, Impact velocity: 1,563 fps (1324 lb-ft) I have a Henry Big Boy Steel .357 leaning in the corner right now, ready to use if need be. The extra powder space in the .357 comes from seating the bullet farther out in the case with a cannelure, not from the extra length, which adds little in the way of volume. In other words, the rimless 10mm case is loaded with a 0.40" diameter bullet, whereas the longer .357 Magnum case is topped with a 0.357" diameter bullet, as the name implies. Since 1895 it may have killed more deer and elk (and cougars and coyotes) than all other calibers combined. I have to admit though, that a 2.5" barrel is a bit silly. anything extra and your We all have our favorites and that's ok. Case in point, the Ruger GP-100, an outstanding range gun. I've owned and shot all. . Over priced at best, "suck" not hardly. Black Horse was down by Saigon (one of the great outfits in the Army). You get most of the oomph of 357, but can still conceal easily. Ive owned the Taurus and loved it but wasnt old enough to really appreciate it but it was beautiful and worked great. Yay .357 revolvers! Right there with you Haz! 686+ 4 inch is the best overall revolver on the market right now, .357 Ruger Blackhawk long barrel, how does it rate among pistols. Again, do we have to state so emphatically, that the list is the opinion of the author. 357 Magnum Rifle M.V. The .357 Magnum revolver was then known as the Model 27, built on an N frame. "Back in the day," target loads using Bullseye powder were known to detonate in the case, instead of burning progressively. As far as the 'exiting bullets', that must refer to .357 handgun bullets, which would in fact be designed for velocities . Chart of .357 ballistics ), it looks just like a Colt .357 Magnum Python and it comes in 2inch and 4inch, not 6 as you stated. Never had it not go BANG and cycle properly when shooting. I purchased a new Kimber K6s and a new S&W 640 Pro last month. Advantages of the 45 Colt: -The 45 Colt has a larger bullet diameter than the .357 Magnum, which means it can create a larger wound channel. You have to spend a ton more money to get a slightly better revolver! Very accurate with little recoil. This is a large frame revolver. Fixed that by replacing the original with a Hogue monogrip. Which is exactly what I own and will never let go of. Additional features include black Hogue grips and an exposed hammer. Compare. However, I suspect the window has closed on that idea. Complete 44 magnum ammunition ballistics Chart. It's also worth doing a trigger job to reduce the heavy and jerky pulls for both SA and DA. Bought a GP100 Match Champion. There is one correction you might care to make in the interest of accurate history, though. Another advantageyou can choose to load this gun using an 8-round moon clip. What are your favorite models? Learn all the important stuff about handgunswith none of the attitude. The rifle does get more out of the cartridge especially if you work up a load that takes maximum advantage of the longer barrel. I will no longer be reading any of your articles. Only test fired the Python as it is in pristine condition. Came with two 7 chamber cylinders. 357 Magnum Revolvers do not have "Proven Stopping Power". No problems with the 686! 125-grain SJHP handloads filled with 17.0 grains of Vitavhouri N-110, a slow-burning magnum pistol powder. Stock springs on the 101 are pretty stout for the ergonomics but a wonderful piece and I also own a Colt Trooper MKIII with a 4 barrel and target trigger and hammer. If I gotta have a second choice, It's gunna be Ruger or "Other" SAR that can handle .357 Mag rounds. In the end, I decided against it, but I was glad to have learned more about this complex and controversial topic. It should have been drifted out and set aside when the Williams was installed, but it wasnt. The case is longer for more powder! I have one with excellent condition, slightly used. My Marlin 1894 needs one screw removed to take the bolt and extractor out and the lever. The racetrack is full of obstacles like the red cube. Can you recommend me the best bullets to choose for precision. That was my first gun. NIce article, and nice to see that my "low budget" Chiappa Rhino should be on this list. An officer traded it in and I was fortunate enough to see it before anyone else did. Join Our Community. Thank y'all! After all, the title is a fair warning of what is contained therein. In the words of Gunblast writer Jeff Quinn Quote: " The 357 Magnum out of a carbine barrel is a whole different animal than the same cartridge fired from a four or six inch revolver. I have the 3" barrel and the DASA model. Go get some full-power .357 loads with 158 to 170 grain bullets and compare them to the similar weight .30-30 ones. I have a 4" GP100 match champion that shoots like a dream. This revolver is ultra-durable and is a relatively soft shooter while maintaining a reasonable level of affordability. In 1972, Ruger introduced the Ruger Security-Six, Service-Six, and Speed-Six Revolvers for law enforcement, civilian self-defense, and military markets. Although it has some recoil, it can be ported with two-ports on each side of the barrel. Indeed. SJHPs should be considered frangible out of a rifle barrel. The .30-30 is the most underrated anti personnel round for general use and I will die on that hill! So Im deciding to use CLP and an air gun in the near future to clean it. An 18 .357 will hold 9+1 rounds, compared to the 6+1 of a .30-30 of the same length. Ammo kinetic energy and shot placement determine what we call "stopping power", not the gun. They also call for a bullet diameter of .3570" - .0030". You also get match-grade wood grips and adjustable sights. So work of art for a operating gun not a collector that sits and never ever will it get packed ! You can load enough bullseye in a 38 special case to blow just about any 357extra powder room is not needed or required. Shooting the 158-grain .38 Specials, the revolver clocked a leisurely 676 fps and 160 lb-ft. soft . The Magnums cost $1.50 per round, while the SIG costs $1.20 per round. While both the 357 and 44 should perform slightly better in a rifle or carbine (the numbers above are for a handgun) the 30-30 is by a wide margin the better choice for larger game. If you dont own one, you should. Only recently replaced with a Security 9. Published hot loads run above 25,000 CUP, approximately double a cowboy load. So I want a lever rifle in a trapper format. I have used a model 66 starting in 1985. No mention of the CZ /Dan Wesson revolvers? The password should contain at least 8 characters with at least one number or special character. Gotta love 357 in a good frame! Ultra Magnum-65,000: 357 Magnum-35,000: 270 WSM-65,000: 8mm . It only gives you the right to possess and use guns for defensive purposes. The short-barreled .30-30 did not produce obnoxious muzzle blast or excessive recoil; in fact it exhibited no particular vices at all other than its sighting apparatus. Nope, y'all missed this one.The S&W 66-2 is the Finest .357 Revolver. Correction on 2nd lb-ft calculation. The one thing that I did notice was about 99% of the competitors used S&W revolvers, could be how easily it was to make a very nice trigger pull or because of the way the cylinder was unlocked for faster reloads. Go to your favorite video streaming web page and look for videos about disassembly and reassembly of a Winchester 94, Marlin 336, or their pistol-caliber equivalents. I have always thought the M1 carbine was a good idea at the time for its intended purpose. It really holds it's own when compared to the the big boys (Colt/S&W). Great article. .357 mag, .22lr, and the dirty-30. With Remington 125-grain JHPs, the revolver got 1442 fps and 537 lb-ft. Guess I just love that Wesson name. Taurus model 608 Eight shot .357 magnum 4 barrel stainless. My daughter liked it and now she is downright deadly with it. .357 is a revolver cartridge. Excellent price too. More barrel affords me a balance I am very accustomed to. But man what a smooooth double action trigger. Another dumb comment about this dumb article. Currently own a GP100 6 Stainless with a 9lb hammer and 10lb return spring and I polished all internals and its as smooth as mayonnaise its a 6lb 7oz double action pull. The King Cobra has a perfect balance of size, weight, and barrel length that results in a great shooter that isn't cumbersome to carry. Love the way it handles. Carried a Speed Six and model 19 at work, then settled on a 629. I think you forgot about Taurus just like a publication like this the only put up the front most popular names. The Winchester Trapper, with its slightly shorter barrel, gave us the following numbers with .30-30 ammo: With the loads we tested, the extra barrel length of the .357 carbine paid handsome dividends. Manurhin and Korth are the best revolvers in the world by far. I have three .357 revolvers: 100 yards with a pistol you're a bad man.. While both are high-quality cartridges, each has its strengths in certain situations. Revolvers. *.30 Remington has entered the chat* or 45-70. Their size also makes them easy to draw and bring to bear quickly. Even for self defense Id stick with 158s in a .357 rifle. The SAAMI specs call for a .355 groove diameter and a .346" bore diameter. Try one! These were both brand new 640 revolvers and even the "good" one was not that great. Im also a novice who is grateful for the information & the personal opinions/experiences in the comments. I love the large frame guns I own 2 44 Magnum Smith & Wesson revolvers with 8 and 3/8 inch barrels and I only shoot iron sights. When I was there they were in the Delta. The Most Hated AK on the Market: The Riley Defense RAK-47 - Full Review . It should serve well as a deer rifle if the range is kept under 1. While these guns are powerful, their large size and heavy weight make them harder to conceal. I like the stainless steel version since it handles moisture better than blued steel. Therefore, the ball can fall out of the racetrack easily. .30-30 is better at deer hunting. Get proficient on YOUR time. It was done intentionally to prevent accidentally loading the .357 into a 38 special gun. The Vaquero is a retro-style revolver that was made for cowboy action shooting fans and looks like the old Colt Single Action Army Revolver of 1873. Call me "Old Fashioned"(and that would be correct, as I am an old man)but I will take my Model 66, 3" Stainless over ANY of the revolvers listed. They were never intended for hard use, or even high volume training, and it shows. This conclusion will undoubtedly anger many who presently hunt deer with a 357 or 44 mag, but the numbers don't lie. As a pacifist, I have always tried to avoid violence in all forms. Where the two separate. Too funny! But many reviewers pass over the facts that the earlier Security-Six also was incredibly sturdy, plus it was lighter. Weve built dozens of ARs and well cover all the best AR-15 upgrades such as handguards, triggers, BCGs, gas blocks, and more. chill out seal team six. The reason to have a rifle in .357 is to be able to shoot the same ammunition out of both guns. And the Ruger GP100 7-shot with 4 barrel. great unknown May 14, . Makes for a great defensive carbine for the family. The model #1702 from Ruger is a .357 caliber Magnum revolver. I had a GP-100 and loved it. It become at first added in 1906, and was at the start used inside the United States Army. the trapper does not have the hoop lever. .30-30 vs .357 Magnum at The Truth About Guns. 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