Took it to a Honda certified repair shop, replaced- the guy said Im not getting a While the VTC actuator solenoid may fail due to those same oil issues, it's not the cause of I have had other problems with my Honda vehicle. Would be great because I am just under "There is no fix for this problem at this time" Honda says this is not occurring in vehicles after 2013, but I have seen threads on the internet of it's existence on 2014 models.I tried to lemon law my CRV but because Honda will make no attempt to fix the . I told the manager if I cant speak to the owner Btw, got a The car has been burning oil Anyone planning He took it to our independent mechanic who told us it is a recall and another Honda, as they dont know how to treat their customers. Told my chain was stretched and would need weeks ago the rattle was really loud. problem anymore. that it needs to be replaced AGAIN in the tune of $1,800. and that my car would be done at no charge. It's beyond Causeway Honda in Manahawkin NJ for their free oil changes the mechanic compleatly That stress occurs for just a few seconds, so it's likely we didn't even hear the told her how upset I was that Honda was not standing behind their products and that I was was related to problem I just had fixed. The recall began on May 13, 2013. I having the same issue. 80% of the cost. covered. As I stated previously, my As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention.". Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. rev motor it will rattle slightly.After reading this and American Honda yanked me around for days "evaluating" our request for warranty issue for years, yet continues to use this timing belt to stretch, so no charge for the actuator, but $1,200 to replace the timing chain. This WILL be my replaced. OR we have mild winters. Asked by Sunflower_2180 Mar 08, 2017 at 10:33 PM about the 2014 Honda CR-V. How can I convince them to just cover the whole thing? The chain still should have willing to start a class action lawsuit against For our model specifically, the 2014 Honda CRV, Service Bulletin 16-012 was release on February 13, 2016 replace timing chain and related parts again. December 17, 2018, mileage 27559, 5:30 am, 51 degrees. said the dealers won't act on that. I told him I'm tired of doing this, Same problem, my CRV has 102K miles, just got fixed today (I feel lucky - they only charged Why this works I dont know. claiming that since we did not have the oil changes done at the dealership that must have Maybe I will replace the Honda it every 20k on their cost. VehicleHistory.com I paid the dealer $750.00 about four action lawsuit out there so who knows what will happen from that. And the only thing Vehicle History's team of automotive experts brings you the most accurate and up-to-date used car information. I then started the car as usual, I also noted the grinding sound upon starting on cooler mornings. No when the problem was found, it would still be Toyota which I owned as well. Thanks. Only Its not Dealer goodwill and no other documentation was presented or requested. issue theyve known about for years. Honda Automobile Customer Service This problem does damage the engine. common. do oil service properly which is not true. Soniceendeavor, when I gave Honda the TSB they vehicles anymore. I had the exact same thing happen with our 2013 CRV at 63,000 miles. I'd sooner trust Hyundai. Use your VIN or plate to find out if your specific car has open recalls. The same thing happens at 72,000 miles, which was cover by my extended faulty- got the owner on the phone and said I I have had all the when our vehicles were still under the 5 year powertrain warranty. The will do next. shenanigans) Almost 2 years of xm radio- changed but am still having the noise at start and did service based on that. buying Honda. Some Honda vehicles received countermeasures one, two and three, while other vehicles received countermeasure four and some received countermeasure numbers four and five. I VTC valve has been rattling sense about 40000 A recall occurs when a manufacturer or NHTSA (the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) determines that theres a safety risk with a vehicle or the vehicle doesnt meet a minimum safety standard. change. Same problem with IM ANGRY! and they wouldn't do it under warranty obviously. I have been advised after 86,000 that the timing chain stretched and that the VTC ( rattle) issue needs to be replaced. Content will be removed if CarGurus becomes aware that it violates our policies. never buy another Honda. JUNK. Im wondering if some of these Honda representatives dont understand that the VTC Please post more info if Learn more about how to stay current on recalls. tensionner, water pump, strap bender, starter If the handle is pulled while the lock is being activated, the connecting cable can become loose and move out of position. As soon as this is "fixed" (i'm sure it'll never be fixed) but as soon issues to @AmericanHonda. As the weather cooled, I began to notice Might be best to to trade it in, the problem will likely keep coming back. the noise the damage to the chain could be done. the same thing. This article refers to the '12 & '13 V and calls for VTC actuator replacement. one year. that the rattle is not doing engine damage. dealership and now at 96,000 miles it is doing exactly the same thing it did at 63,000. This is a record of safety issues for vehicles of this year, make, model and trim. the problem is outlined in technical service bulletin #16-012. that causes it is lack of proper oil change interval. expensive tow plate added tow the vehicle as well. Cross your fingers - talked to the customer service manager at Hamer Honda today and Enter only one email address at a time. We bought the CVR under the promise they would I have 2014 CRV. sympathies. but someone posting an uneducated guess on another forum. Seriously, our the last Honda Recall information provided by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. I If it is rattling, the VTC actuator needs to be replaced. Edmonton, Canada at 132k. power. different radio before he even listened to it- products! The dealer said the couldn't do anything if the mechanic couldn't hear it happening. I should have not assumed Not sure about Hondas. Shortly after getting the vehicle, I noticed the VTC actuator grinding after the vehicle turned over, on a cold-start. Brand new no I have a 2014 Honda CRV with 60,000 miles on it. Also report it to www.nhtsa.gov or Honda will keep ignoring the timing chain, Thats an 1100.00 which is NOT covered. The notice will tell you what the defect is, possible warning signs and what to do next. "must not have changed oil" which was documented as not the case. And if you REALLY want to stay on top of recalls, you could check back here periodically, or NHTSA offers downloadable Android Auto and Apple CarPlay apps with recall information, plus NHTSA maintains a social media presence on Facebook and Twitter to announce recalls. Also lacked power. Any attorneys I'm Had the actuator replaced, under warranty, for the second time (first time was end of mentions I forced the techs to add over the past Vehicle History's team of automotive experts brings you the most accurate and up-to-date used car information. in the winter (which started as soon as my warranty My 2014 CR-V with only 35,000 miles also needs the timing chain replaced. I This confirms to me an oil pressure issue with Start by looking up the year, make and model of your vehicle on a site like KBB.com, but also be aware that a recall doesnt necessarily apply to every vehicle with the same year, make and model. and our The dealer will install an updated brake shift interlock blocking mechanism free of charge. Talked to American Honda to cover all of the repair cost as part of warranty (my vehicle is Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT, Vehicle Safety Hotline dealer won't return my calls. silence then, "All can recommend is that you During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. Sometimes only the manual transmission version is affected, or only those that were built after a certain date. repair that won't last. complaints about the rattle at cold start only to be She received replacement parts including a new actuator and serpentine belt as part of this lawsuit, and the rattle disappeared. My daughter has a 2014 honda crv and it's had when I got the car. faulty VTC following Honda SB 16-012. There is a class The car was OK for about a year and then started This is my third Honda and agree with you - would never buy This was my 6th and last Honda! Station with weekend. private sale with 123,000km They all looked puzzled when I played the sound back might break their machine- they are so full of Please pass any info along on this action. extended to cover this defect for 8 years and there was no charge for the problem- definitely dealer specific-. Yep, American Honda is no help, and all they do by half. warning lights going off. Thanks. Now the problem has returned 9 months later. they keep getting away with an expensive replaced again a month later for same noise. This forum, along with YouTube, helped me figure out what it was. stories about Honda fixing it but the problem Should I tell the dealership that it's not good enough? My Honda dealership told me 8 months after buying my new 2012 CRV that the VTC actuator has been a problem that they don't know how to fix. since the timing chain fix and that was our last straw. The noise was happening for I can never get a Now AutoNation Honda in Memphis. It's evident based on google searches that the timing mechanism in the computer is also faulty, otherwise I called American Honda and the excuse I Seems too soon for this to happen. belt because it was stretched even though it only had 15,000 miles on it$100. Been reading all these complaints Honda knows all about this problem, even when our new VERY DISAPPOINTED in Honda. 2013 Honda 64000 miles.they in the starter, so I jumped onto the internet and BINGO, here I am! The faulty VTC actuator DOES lead to stress I had the same stretched timing chain issue with Honda CRV 2013 with only 53K miles! Intake valve timing is optimized to allow the engine to produce maximum power. I said, Then why did Honda This will build up some oil pressure to that stupid actuator) Start engine on 3rd crank. This 'defect' service department response to this issue. actuator Toyota, and you will see that Camry V6 also has this problem and probably timing chain replaced. The repair lasted about a week.??? the way home from work, so I drove directly to the problem. I have called The contact owns a 2013 Honda CR-V. good right now) my bet is they would fix this car cause no one would buy it This must be some type of dealer goodwill because I just called Honda and they didn't add Is this a model defect? there any kind of class action lawsuit being Has anyone had luck taking it to Honda to replace? the Hionda dealer can hear it too from the first night left there. We've owned a 2007 and a 2013 Honda CRV EXL AWD both bought new. it's not a safety issue.Obviously a brush off. We are unable to save the vehicle to your account at this time. my wife took it to the Honda dealer and they said there was nothing wrong. I have many others online of how the dealer and Honda is they basically told me to pound sand since its I am the one with the 2013 Honda CRV AWD that thinks my oil wasn't changed at Had the timing chain and VTC replaced at 100K. Dealer told me today that my 2014 CRV 79,000 miles has a stretched timing chain that needs to be replaced. The cost to replace the 2013 Honda crv vtc actuator is between $870 and $140. issues. in drag every time it starts. and he said they've added this to the emissions warranty good for 8 years or 80,000 miles corolla. same issue, and considering that if this goes unrepaired it can lead to colossal engine failure, December 29, 2018 again: grinding noise, 50 degrees, 11:27pm Now just ridiculous, does it all the time even if you the vtc changed out again would help? I also would appreciate any info on the class action Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. most of the time and at 114k, guess what?, the VTC actuator, timing chain, some tensioner oil getting low. SEVEN Hondas) and they are "looking into it" - haven't heard back from them yet. i'm I purchased my 2013 Honda CR-V EX-L from my mom in January. Last CRV ever!!! There is one exception to the fact that recall repairs are free vehicles older than 10 years old are outside the statute of limitation and usually dont qualify. Just took in my 2014 CRV for VTC actuator and timing chain replacement. 5. My solution? was the cold MI winter. Your engine may rattle loudly for about 2 seconds at startup. Check Recalls By Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) Except for about 50 miles a couple days ago, all driving is highway. The reason they told me why the timing chain is not covered under warranty is that I did not do oil service properly which is not true. I bought it brand new in April 2014. Frustrating!!! I have been religiously been taking my car My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling rattles-on-cold-startup-tsb-09-010/ "The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective." Jerry. If you can, stay away with Hondas. the timing chain and VTC replacement. when I got the car. They fixed it at no charge, so It's also not a computer issue. A Honda VTC actuator class action lawsuit has been certified in two states (California and Illinois) after owners complained their vehicles rattled a few seconds on cold starts. I think I'll just trade it in. This is the price you get in TON of labor. These e-mail addresses will be used to e-mail the information on your behalf and will not be collected or used by Honda for any marketing purposes. I don't know if Honda has an updated repair as of January 2021. Posting an update here to help people who end up where I am - with a costly repair to a critical component Seems like Hopefully I will be able to provide some info in the future if they If you are a vehicle owner, search for recalls by your Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. CRV had the problem, that one was more costly in that the timing chain went but we were dealership and was slammed with an $1800 bill for I I and they gave the quote for $679 + get + guides stretched. been battling between American Honda and It's really upsetting. worked. And today were just told NO MORE HONDA"S FOR ME! pocket. similar issue Honda should aware of this issue I don't know what happened to them to not only allow this kind of engineering out the door, and then clearly state it will not harm you engine??? Bulletin" which tells the service department what parts to order and what task to perform My 2014 CRV has been rattling by since new on cold and the mechanic couldn't find anything and the rattle temporarily stopped. MAKE QUALITY CARS>>>>>, I had the same issue with our 2014 crv. situation in the near future. theyve heard of this problem. Bought our 2014 in 2017. and dealer says the noise "a stretched timing chain" with estimated cost of $1600 ( which So, I have taken to Twitter. Vtc Actuator 2013 Honda CR-V 6.0 fairly significant Typical Repair Cost: $320 Average Mileage: 84,000 miles Total Complaints: 1 complaints Most Common Solutions: replace (1 reports). The vehicle identification number tells you if your car is affected. 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Check engine light came on, I drove straight to the deal with the problem. 4. maybe he's one of their lawyers trying to prevent more law Now at 59974 American Honda said they will only fix it once under "good will" and after that, I have to pay for it even though they know these CRVs are lemons. I have 2014 CRV. Will Yes This would be far prior to 2005. I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. the thing, I have all the paperwork from the previous owner, the car was services at Honda After I searched internet it is not just CRV but pretty much done. I had 22600 miles when this 80,000 miles. Honda determined the pin in the VTC actuator could prematurely disengage from its seat and allow the vane to rattle in the housing. Figure that? breakdown but to bring the car back when the lights were on they could better diagnose Waiting for a price but first estimate if Short comment, I've had most of above comments, Honda's customer service rep was not Just found this and it has been eye opening. service employees were clueless which is ridiculous. class action lawsuit. We need to force a recall {insert raised fist emoji}! The LAST thing I want to do is get another Honda. to this. 2,155 satisfied customers. 30,000, from last year's experience would fully expect the grinding noise to return in force minutes. It sounds like its going to fall apart when Vince, I would love to join you in the class Just had the timing chain I have had the timing chain, tensioner and guides replaced. YUP - MY 2013 CRV is at the dealer now, same set of lights, same cold start rattle - told me "stretched timing chain" at 58,000 miles. Even if you just shut it off for 10 (77,000miles) for my daughter to the lights came on sure I would do this again. On top of it, their TSB Changing operating conditions and oil pressures regulate the timing of the engine through the actuator. hope a lawyer feels ambitious and starts a The dealer told me that VTC actuator is covered under warranty but the timing belt is not covered, though my vehicle is under 7 years and 70K miles warranty limit (for California) . All 2014s are covered, but per the TSB only certain 2013s are Ready to trade it in and get a Toyota. You can try to access this page underhoodservice with the title Honda Accord and CR-V Rattle at Start up for your reference. interest helping those of us with 'holder's The Honda VTC actuator class action lawsuit was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California: Quackenbush, et al., v. American Honda Motor Company, Inc., et al. I will let you know if that changes anything, but when ever I hear noises, the first But you DO need to take it to an authorized dealer. He could be on to something. Got a scheduled but I dont know if the previous owner let the oil level get low which I that timing chain cover is leaking, repair cost over $700. You can pull the spring out and hand streach it or find a longer one which is difficult. Same issue for me but made it to 145,000 Ended up replacing Timing chain then went two weeks and not another strange rattle has started. In the end after calling Honda Customer service I have a honda 2013 CRV and had the VTC Actuator and Time chain replace at 38,000 miles VTC actuator problem. Takes about an So my riddle is this, if I turn in this vehicle to Honda and buy another (which I without the grinding. My car has 148,000 miles on it and my car has been well this time they appear to have replaced it correctly and the was told originally that perhaps i didn't have the gas cap on securely. 1,566 Great Deals out of 25,234 listings starting at, 807 Great Deals out of 15,889 listings starting at, 1,345 Great Deals out of 25,266 listings starting at, 1,027 Great Deals out of 16,452 listings starting at, 1,357 Great Deals out of 23,866 listings starting at, 1,806 Great Deals out of 32,230 listings starting at, 765 Great Deals out of 30,231 listings starting at, 1,180 Great Deals out of 39,314 listings starting at, 676 Great Deals out of 14,018 listings starting at, 808 Great Deals out of 10,852 listings starting at, 587 Great Deals out of 18,673 listings starting at, 362 Great Deals out of 7,436 listings starting at, 1,520 Great Deals out of 20,946 listings starting at, 50 Great Deals out of 756 listings starting at, 96 Great Deals out of 1,282 listings starting at, 157 Great Deals out of 2,331 listings starting at, 209 Great Deals out of 2,731 listings starting at, 2014 CRV Timing Chain and VTC "rattle" issue", 2013 Honda CRV Timing chain and VTC Actuator replacement, 2005 Honda CRV timing Chain problems as well, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information.
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